Black Mirrors creators Charlie Brooker and Annabel Jones discuss season 5 episode Striking Vipers.
Warning: contains spoilers forBlack Mirrorseason 5 episodeStriking Vipers.
[all laugh] Anyway!
Charlie Brooker:He is.
AJAnd then Yahya [Abdul Mateen II] with him as a perfect complement.
CBAnd Nicole [Beharie] is brilliant, theyre all really really good.
All of those universal themes are going on in that film.
CBI agree with everything you just said.
AJOh god, that must hurt.
AJHe said it, not me.
CBBut he said it and you agreed … in a sarcastic way.
AJSo therefore …
CBDont gaslight me by pretending you didnt!
CBItd be closer toSan Junipero, possibly.
I think its probably more of an equal playing field.
I dont think it would be that different.
Frankly, the manufacturers of that game are burying the lede by making their game apparently a fighting game.
Clearly theres more going on in it!
Why did they bother programming goolies?
Goolies is a word that isnt used enough in the 21stcentury.
you’re able to say goolies.
Goolies is going to make a comeback.
AJLets make a film called Goolies.
CB[Laughs] Okay.
CBI did not see that.
Im aware of theDead Or Alivefranchise, its basically a bit likeBaywatch, isnt it?
It was like look at this, its very boob-y Its insanely boob-y.
AJThats interesting that then one of the most progressive mediums is also the most regressive.
It is changing but theres a lot of storytelling that is quite old-fashioned.
I was just thinking of the one with the father and the daughter.
Its sort of a proxy daughter.
I think shes the main protagonist in the sequel.
Not many mediums are bringing out heres a booby franchise for you!
CBI dont think people were welcoming it and going this is agoodthing.
If you pay an extra five pounds, the actors will get their bums out.
AJWas it successful, did people pay?
I think it was a Twitter scandal.
CBWere they annoyed that they had to pay to see it or annoyed that this existed as a thing.
A bit of both.
It was like having to pump coins into an erection machine [laughs]
AJThats where the moneys going!
CB[Adopts comedy voice] Ive got a 2 coin somewhere, come on!
[laughs loudly]
[Various exchanges relating to where youd put the coin in an erection machine.
The tip suggests Jones.
Thats going to really hurt.
Youll have to bash that in with a shoe, says Brooker.
CBIts an interesting one in that I think theyre sort of being honest there.
No, I think that scene is a genuine we just need to know.
The ending where Danny and his wife come to an agreement…
CBIts quite pragmatic.
Is that one that will start conversations between couples around the globe?
CBIt certainly will if that game ever comes out!
AJIts an un-traditional romantic ending in that everyone is happy.
CBBut then theres something very romantic about being very pragmatic with someone and being very realistic and accepting them.
[Laughs]
AJTheres a personal indictment!
Untraditional romantic ending, but probably very realistic.
I imagine it will [start conversations].
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