Warning: contains spoilers forUSS Callister.

(Read our spoiler-filled review here).

We chatted to Brooker andBlack Mirrorproducer Annabel Jones about its development.

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How did the layers of that story evolve?

Whats aBlack Mirrorspace episode?

Its like a nightmare, hes a tyrant, hes mad!

[laughs]

CB:Relatively quickly those thoughts came together.

His warped version of it.

Hes like actually, its about ethics in space exploration!

Was that intended as a comment on online fandom and that sort of character?

CB:Not really.

Its interesting because that is a thing that a couple of people have said.

It must be the most effects-heavyBlack Mirrorepisode yet?

CB:By quite a long chalk.

That was partly why it came about.

It was Framestore who did the effects.

Did the creatures come out as youd written them?

It was a bitStarship Troopersin my head, and it is a bit.

Was that an inspiration or just somewhere in the back of your head?

Certainly you could draw a parallel there.

Are you aStar Trekfan?

Whats your relationship with that franchise?

I never really watched the 90sStar Trekseries.

He knew a lot of the lingo.

The episode has a lot of fun with early Star Trek…

CB:Tropes, yes.

A lot of that came from Will, he was like Oh, I know!

This and that can happen, so he was having a lot of fun in that respect.

I watchedThe Original Serieswhen I was a kid and would find it terrifying a lot of the time.

Theres a bit of piss-taking going on but really its aimed at Daly.

So incurring the wrath ofStar Trekfans isnt something youre worried about?

CB:Well its worrying, because you dont want to upset people unnecessarily.

He says at one point that it was visionary, and thats true!

Read Mirror season 4 here.